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Thacher State Park

Postby hoohaa » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:19 pm

Anyone know about the falls in this park? Photos etc.? I'm going up there in a couple of weekends and see there are some falls so I thought I'd do some research and see what I was looking at and if I have some time, I might try and get in there and do some images.
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Re: Thacher State Park

Postby Matt » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:14 pm

I don't know much about it, but I do know that Indian Ladder Falls is spectacular (when flowing) and that's on the Indian Ladder Trail. There is at least another falls along the way.
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Postby hoohaa » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:09 pm

Have you seen images of them? Any idea where I can find them? If I put Indian Ladder Falls into Google, it comes up with some in Pennsylvania!
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Re: Thatcher State Park

Postby Matt » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:25 pm

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Re: Thacher State Park

Postby L_G_D » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:02 am

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I couldn't let this one go without a bunch of shots, and I only had time to get a few (lol-when you see how many) together for now, more later. Thacher Park has no less than about 20 waterfalls. Maybe I'll get a full count once I get done gathering all the shots I've taken over the years.

The problem with the falls in Thacher is that they tend to dry up in the summer. If they ran with good flow all year long, it would be a go-to place for waterfall fans all year. But, since most of the water runs underground as soon as it can (nearby Thompson's Lake has no above ground outlet) the falls usually are dry most of the summer. Unless you get there during the spring melt in April & May, or after a good hard rain, you'll see not much more than a trickle at the bigger falls, and the rest will be completely dry.

First, the web links:

John Boyd Thacher:
http://nysparks.state.ny.us/parks/128/details.aspx
http://www.nynjtc.org/park/john-boyd-thacher-state-park
Thompson's Lake:
http://nysparks.state.ny.us/parks/99/details.aspx

I need to get the NY-NJ Trail Conference a better picture for their site one of these days.

If you plan to visit the park, I would suggest stopping by the park office near the Indian Ladder lot or at the Nature Center off Ketcham Road and pick up a trail map created by yours truly and distributed by the NY-NJ Trail Conference. It's not the most well-printed map ever, but we wanted to get one out sooner rather than later. Plus, it has most of the waterfall locations marked on it as a "point of interest". It also marks all trails, roads, parking lots, view points, etc. Definitely worth the $1 they charge for it.

And now on to the pictures. I will create a google map once I figure out how to import my waypoints to google.

First up, the big one, Mine Lot Falls:

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The next tall one is Outlet Falls:

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Now the smaller ones:

This one is along the trail just outside the Hop Field parking lot
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Just south of Hop Field
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These next three shots are the same small falls with various water levels. The ice storm last winter brought down many trees in the park and this area was hard hit, you can hardly see this fall anymore because so many trees have fallen to block the view.
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The next two are on the same stream that Mine Lot Falls is on, these are near the Paint Mine parking lot, along with the falls above, which is a feeder stream to this one
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Unnamed falls on unnamed stream that is dry most of the time. It is south of the Hop Field parking lot and towards the escarpment

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The problem with taking pictures of the falls in Thacher is that all of them face towards the north, so you have to point your camera south towards the sun & the bright part of the sky. Even using HDR I have had little luck getting really good shots of most of them, where the water level, light & weather conditions are all good. More shots of the other 10 or so falls once I get them together, and some of the falls I have never seen water in yet, so there's always room for a few more.

ps - can we get the spelling corrected in the title of this post?
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Re: Thacher State Park

Postby Matt » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:36 am

Wow, that's quite an assortment. I may have to get out there next spring.
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Re: Thacher State Park

Postby hobkyl » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:55 am

Wow! Thats a must visit!
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Re: Thacher State Park

Postby L_G_D » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:08 pm

Glad everyone likes the shots, some of them aren't quite as good as I'd like, but you take what you can get as far as light & water are concerned.

If anyone wants to visit, let me know, maybe we can work something out to meet up, I would be glad to be tour guide. Spring can be tricky, since the lower Indian Ladder trail isn't open until May 1st, and that's only when it's clear of ice, which sometimes it isn't. So it's best to call the park office first and find out especially if you're going to be traveling a distance. Usually the water is still flowing decent when the trail is first opened, but sometimes depending on the amount of snow melt, it can be quite reduced by the time the first of May rolls around. You can still see the falls from the top of the cliff at anytime of the year, but it's a nice experience to walk behind them.

I have time to get a couple shots up tonight, so here's one:

This is the same stream that feeds outlet falls, but farther upstream almost at the edge of the park
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Another on an unnamed stream, this one is just off the road near the Hop Field parking lot
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That's it for today, I'll see if I can get some more uploaded tomorrow.
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Re: Thacher State Park

Postby L_G_D » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:58 pm

A few more,

This one is a real pain to get to, lots of blowdown, and that was before the last ice storm, I don't know what it looks like in there now. I was actually balanced on fallen trees and dirt that was trapped in them, maybe three feet off the ground, to get this shot.
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The upper portion close up, this stream is another that's almost always dry, I took these shots in late April and there was still ice covering the stream just above this, so much so that I couldn't get up to the next waterfall which was still frozen.
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Downstream from Hop Field
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Another on the unnamed stream south of Hop Field
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A closer view of one of the ones I posted before
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And finally, for tonight, a rare shot of both Mine Lot & Outlet Falls where you can actually see them. There are two places along the cliff where you can see both at the same time.
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Re: Thacher State Park

Postby Matt » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:31 am

beautiful!
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Re: Thacher State Park

Postby L_G_D » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:32 pm

Bet you thought I was done, eh? Well, you're not so lucky.

This is the waterfall further upstream from the falls in the first two shots from my last post. It was frozen the week before, a week later and it's running fairly decent. The following week this stream was pretty much dry.
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This is far downstream from the above falls, and the water is pretty much running out. There are a few more small falls on this stream just before it trickles over the edge of the escarpment, but I've never had a chance to get good shots of them. Besides, it's really tricky to get down to them.
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This is one of those falls that you just can't get a good angle on to get the whole thing. Besides the fact that it's almost always dry. Here's an overall view
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Bottom:
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Middle:
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Top:
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Here's Mine Lot Falls in the winter. This is actually a small amount of ice compared to most years, usually there's a huge column of ice there.
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Last one for tonight (yes, there will be more, I told you there were a lot of waterfalls there) me and the remnants of the ice column at the bottom of Mine Lot Falls. The trail had just opened, so you can tell how much water is usually there at that time of the year.
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Re: Thacher State Park

Postby hoohaa » Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:53 am

When I was there last fall, the falls were all dried up. It was disappointing! I hope to get back though.
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