[Brenda]

That is an interesting proposal, Tarkus. This is the first that I've heard of it. The entire situation is such a mess right now. My stand on it is that I welcome development to improve our economy, but not at the cost of the existing wildlife and habitats. I am strongly against the Sessler/Battaglia plan because it's obvious that it is intended to only benefit the parties involved. I have no knowledge of, or dealings with the Sessler family, but I can absolutely say that I want no part of anything that Mr. Battaglia is involved with! Oh, welcome to the community!

[Matt]

Here's a link to that article in the D&C
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/app ... 8802170347

[Tarkus]

Thanks for the welcome,

Finger Lakes Technology Group went in a different direction than I had outlined. I approached them because they are affiliated with the two Local Exchange Carriers that would service the North and South Routes. My proposal was to create a "beachhead" for a future data center. If you are interested, I updated the story and left the original link to the PowerPoint given to the Governor's Are Representative. See, http://www.ceci.org/links/2006/WhiteDeer.htm .

I am not involved in the current project. I found out about FLTG's plans just before an article about it was released in 2007. They are going beyond the beachhead concept and developing a data center, but the end users may not be the Wall Street firms that I had in mind.

I don't think it is in FLTG's interest to have people carrying firearms outside of their facilities. I don't know if they have provided input to the Seneca County IDA. There have been some personnel changes at the IDA since Mr. Cook was there.

The whole point to a secure data center is to have as few people in OR AROUND the facilities. Major firms could look to larger areas for places where their primary and backup people could be stationed.

The wildlife should be able to continue their enjoyment of the depot grounds at the same point in time that businesses within the depot are generating income.

I think that there are several ways in which companies can do business at the Seneca Army Depot which can preserve the aritifical balance of nature that was created by the presence of the Depot over several decades. That does not mean that the wildlife is only relegated to the more toxic areas of the Depot that businesses don't want. It means that the approach to the development of new business should be given towards preserving the enclave for certain wildlife that the Depot has become.

When I consider brining a new busines to the region, I try to think how the people who are in the business will develop modern methods of businesses which preserve or improve the regional environment. That may mean splitting a nature friendly application in one area and a more industrial focus somewhere else.

Tarkus

By the way, I met with our State CIO (she came in from another State). She was asking how the fishing was up in the Finger Lakes region, but I would expect that there is a wide variety of fishing spots throughout New York State to outline on the Fishing discussion board.

[Matt]

good points Tarkus. Welcome aboard!

[Tarkus]

Thanks, BTW, great dog photo on your avatar.

Also, we are learning in Ontario County that, once created, these IDAs become quasi public agencies that answer to very few people. The Ontario County IDA has even asserted that it has the power of condemnation, even when the Town (Town of Canandaigua) asserts that it does not want to close a public road sought by the IDA (to extend an airport runway).

[cbobcat49]

http://newyorkoutdoors.files.wordpress. ... a-deer.pdf

[cbobcat49]

Look what we saw while driving north along 96A Saturday evening!
These shots came out so blurry they look faked. Must have been how that guy felt when he got that sasquatch on film back in the 70s.

There was one non-albino hanging out with 3 white ones...

[Brenda]

I never get tired of seeing them. It's not uncommon for a doe to have one white and one brown fawn. They've launched a new campaign, "Spend a buck to save some doe:" http://newyorkoutdoors.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/seneca-deer.pdf

[cbobcat49]

http://newyorkoutdoors.wordpress.com/20 ... ring-2009/

Seneca White Deer Tours - Spring 2009
February 22, 2009 by newyorkoutdoors
After a long wait and lots of effort, Seneca White Deer Inc. has been able to obtain permission to hold three weekends of tours at the Seneca Army Depot again this spring. The attached files include all the information about the tours and the registration process but feel free to email or call me (Denis Money, whitebuck47@yahoo.com , 585-394-1287 ) with any questions. Our goal is to once again have a sell out crowd to show that a blend of tourism and conservation are the best and highest use for the remaining lands of the former Depot.

With your help in spreading the word, we can accomplish that task.

Thank you! Dennis Money, 585-394-1287, www.senecawhitedeer.org

Click here for flyer: senecadeertours2009
Registration Form:

Back by popular demand, an extended touring season begins this April and continues thru the first Sunday of May to visit the Seneca Army Depot. Come view the famous white deer, ospreys, turkeys, visit an empty ammunition bunker and learn about the military history of the former Seneca Army Depot. Tours last approximately two hours and will be by bus only. Don’t delay in registering as in 2006 hundreds of people had to be turned away.

Buses will depart from the Varick Volunteer Fire Department which is located at #4682 NYS Rt. 96A, about 7 miles south of NYS Rts. 5&20. Look for signs. A map can also be found on the back of this registration form. Your support is valuable as Seneca White Deer Inc. continues to pursue tourism as the best economic stimulus for thousands of acres of the Depot and to protect the Depot for current and future generations to enjoy as a conservation park.

Please fill out the registration form below indicating a first and second choice for the tours. Prices are $15 for adults, $12 for seniors 62 and over and $7 for children 12 and younger. Mail your checks or money orders to: Young’s Travel Service, Attn: Bettylou Young, 60 Mynderse St., Seneca Falls, NY 13148. Checks or money orders should be made out to “Seneca White Deer”. There are no refunds unless the tour is canceled due to weather so please make every effort to attend your chosen date and time.

Group tours for those organizations having their own buses will be available on Fridays only for the three weekends. Please call Bettylou at 315-568-4112 for the details and scheduling. You will receive your tickets shortly in the mail after your registration is processed. We do not accept credit cards; checks or money orders only. Don’t forget to bring your cameras and binoculars!!

Check the date and times for your first and second choice and indicate those choices in the registration form below, i.e. write 1st choice, 2nd choice in the appropriate space.

[Brenda]

Awesome news, and I'll add the link on my website!

[Matt]

NYFalls outing perhaps?

[Bill_K]

Could be a good outing.

[Matt]

and a good excuse to buy a new lens!

[Bill_K]

and a good excuse to buy a new lens!

Hey, you're buying a house....remember.

[cbobcat49]

Seneca White Deer newsletter...

http://newyorkoutdoors.files.wordpress. ... lfinal.pdf