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The following is an excerpt from the Lodi Town Board meeting this past Thurs. night which was printed in the Finger Lakes Times:
By Paulette Likoudis
Friday, June 15, 2007 2:55 PM CDT
In other business, the board discussed:
FOREST - Residents' continuing concern about the Finger Lakes National Forest acquiring more town land.
Baer (Deputy Supervisor Eugen Baer) recalled that the federal government taking land off the local tax roll has been an issue since he was town supervisor 17 years ago.
Promises of payment in lieu of taxes have not materialized, he said, noting that the compensation the town gets now is paltry, “the equivalent of that of a single household.”
“I think it's time to make some noise,” he said, adding that he would consult with Davidson (Town Supervisor Lee Davidson). The Finger Lakes National Forest is reportedly eyeing another parcel of land on Wilkins Road.
Those who oppose the forest expansion say pleas for road maintenance have been rejected and the lost tax revenue is monumental. Baer pointed out that the Finger Lakes Forest constituted 16 percent of the town's land in 1996, and that has increased.
This crap drives me insane! The only parcel on Wilkins Rd. that Mr. Baer could be referring to is landlocked--totally surrounded by existing forest land! Wilkins Road is a seasonal road for all but the last several hundred feet, with no utilities! I wish that I could quote exactly how much land the forest has purchased in the Town of Lodi since 1996, but it isn't much, unless he's referring to the old boyscout camp that lay abandoned for years before the US Forest Service acquired it. Road maintenance? I counted less than ten miles of year round Town roads that are adjacent to forest land. The rest are county roads or seasonal. The majority of the forest lies within Schuyler County, and Lodi is in Seneca Co. I just don't understand how anyone can object to having land set aside for conservation; land that isn't developed to begin with. Heaven forbid that we should be proud of the fact the we have the only national forest in NY right in our backyards. They sure don't bitch when it comes time to ride their horses or snowmobile on the miles of trails that are maintained at US Forest Service expense! No, I don't want to attend the board meetings--I couldn't control my anger.
It's all about the $$ in Lodi!
The town would have responsibilities to offer services to parcels of land, so if it's isolated then it may cost them more than what they get in revenue. IE... they may have to begin maintaining the road... I think there are state laws that they would have to have an accessible road to a residence that they tax, because of emergency response.
Even the portion of that road that is now currently "maintained" year round is still dirt. If an individual was to purchase that parcel to build on they would have to get a right of way across the existing gov't land for electric, access, etc., and I'm not sure how easily that is done. It's just been a hunting camp for years, as far as I know, so I can't imagine that it is assessed for much. The same people who are against forest expansion are likely the same people who would have no problem with having the existing forest dotted with gas wells, which has been another hot topic over recent years.
Here we go again. God, I love my neighbors!!!
http://www.fltimes.com/articles/2008/07 ... 644420.txt
That's 51 parcels of land that the town wouldn't have to spend tax revenue on, and they get compensation from the Fed for it. Sounds good to me.
Logically speaking... if they the parcels of land were to be occupied by tax-payers, then an efficient government would be using that tax base to pay for the increase in population. If the population doesn't increase, then they should have no need for new taxpayer income anyways. Unless the government cannot balance a budget. Then in that case they shouldn't be elected again. If their objective is to grow... become bigger- sounds counter to the small town reason for living there in the first place. If their objective is more money- well they've got to spend money to grow to accommodate the 51 new parcels of residents. If a government isn't corrupt or incompetent, new tax-payer revenue goes to support the new taxpayers- thus if you don't have it, you don't need it.
New tax-paying residents are not surplus generators... Politicians need to get that out of their head.
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That has to represent every inch of forest land within the town, much of which has been forest land from "day one."
I bet that will be news to Meg (and I intend to share this article with her)! The Forest Service owns less than 1/2 mile on both sides of this county road along a one mile stretch. There is not one road within the town where the Forest Service owns both sides for even one mile.
The government's refusal? He must have missed the hundreds of protesters camped out in front of the ranger station.
The bottom line is that, for an individual to want to sell to the Forest Service, they REALLY have to WANT to sell to the Forest Service. It's a long and arduous process. They could certainly get more for the land by selling to a private individual. I'll be damned if the town is going to tell me who I can and can not sell my land to! I wish I had several thousand acres to sell to the forest!!!
Score one for the good guys! Too bad its not in Lodi.
I just stumbled across this video. I'm not sure what to think of it. It looks to be a student project of some sort. I'm not quite sure what National Parks have to do with National Forests, and most of it wasn't even shot in the Forest. Recruitment video? For what? If it was for the National Forest System as a whole, it would be one thing, but we only hire a few seasonals a year at best. It is interesting, I'll give it that. I will say that I hand painted every one of those signs that are shown from the FLNF.