A place to discuss waterfalls. Including the parks that house them and the hikes to get to them.
Brickyard Falls is in Manlius Onondaga Co and is 50-60 ft. The FL land trust owns land that borders the creek just downstream from the falls. The boundaries of both the land trust property and the conservation easement used for access can be viewed on the Onondaga County GIS site. The only problem is that parking is strickly not allowed anywhere near here so the only option is to park in manlius at a shopping plaza or similar place and walk about 1 mile. You can also park at the plaza right where the creek passes through Manlius and creekwalk. You wont encounter any posted signs but I don't really know exactly what the legality of this would be. The creek is pretty wide/deep and might be considered navigable if that makes any difference. This option would be a 1 mile walk as well. Someone has a house right at the crest of the falls and its quite difficult to shoot the full height of the falls and not include the house. The sun also shines directly on this falls before setting. I had to wait for an hour before I could get a long exposure. Then again, whats there to complain about?!
great photos. I'll add this to the index. Thanks!
Is there any chance someone could mark a map for the conservation easement or FLLT property? The GIS site is not working properly and/or I am not smart enough to use it, and I would liek to get in here before it is too cold. Much thanks for any help.
Ignore the above post-I found the CNY Land Trust property listed on their site. There seems to be an entry point at the end of Farley Lane in Manlius. Going to try and go in this week if weather permits.
There is a conservation easement at the end of Farley however parking is not allowed anywhere on that street as there are warning signs every few yards. The official stance from the land trust is "there is no access at this time". The only way to get there without any trouble is to park in manlius and walk/bike out there. Also just fyi the land trust property meets the stream downstream from the falls - you'll need to creekwalk up past some elaborate deck/staircase someone has built down to the stream. That being said its a really nice place and hopefully access will be easier someday. Personally I don't think I'll be going back as it just wasn't worth the trouble. To add to the creekside deck there's a mcmansion directly above the crest of the falls and you cant look at the falls without looking at a house
I am surprised that Manlius hasn't outlawed people walking down the street yet. I may do the walk up from the parking lot at the plaza. It's a shame that Manlius has all these wonderful things and they act this way. I know that I worked at the Manlius Cinema for a few years when I was younger and never knew there was a beautiful park 100 yards away (Mill Run Park.)
Agreed, given the affluent nature of the community you'd think there'd be a push to acquire properties like edwards falls, brickyard falls, 3falls woods, etc. Then again maybe thats the problem - wealthy individuals are willing to pay more than the government. I have done the creekwalk up from the shopping plaza - definitely challenging but rewarding. If I had to pick one route to recommend, I'd try the walk/bike from Farley. If you have any problems you haven't already invested a 1 mile creekwalk in water that is often very deep. You also know for sure you haven't crossed any property lines as you have the tax map in hand. I'm guessing the creekwalk crosses a few hundred property lines, so there is some potential for problems even though they aren't posted lines.
Farley access is now restricted...spoke with property owner on the street who said that one homeowner will actually chase "trespassers" in the woods on his atv. Homeowner with falls view the next street up from Farley is amenable to responsible adults requesting access but posted signs to try to limit teen parties.
Brickyard Falls may technically be owned by a land trust, but is in fact, owned by at least one of the homeowners. The purpose of a Florida Land Trust is to allow individuals to buy property, conceal the fact that they own it, limit their liability, and retain the rights of a property owner. Therefore, the kindly neighbor who allows access, may have no legal right to do so, and the legal property owner(s) can still have you arrested for trespassing.
Be careful with this one, friends. Trust me.
I've been told about Edward's Falls and Old Dam, however I'm confused because I've heard from locals a couple of different stories. I've been told that "Old Dam" is what USED to be Edward's Falls before they dammed it up and made it into a dinky dam-thing. So basically Edward's Falls is no longer in existence (?!), and what many people refer to as "Edward's Falls" is actually Brickyard Falls, named after an old brickyard whose power source came from the waterfall. So what's the story? I hiked down the gully behind Suburban the other day and followed Limestone Creek until I could not go any further due to rough terrain and inadequate footwear (I'm going back ASAP with all the proper gear and I WILL CROSS THAT CREEK AND FEAST MY EYES ON THOSE FALLS!) I also tried approaching from Pompey Center Rd. and got a view of the very top of the falls where there is a "Private Property" sign strung across the entire width of the creek. Unfortunately whatever (eh hem, holding my tongue) "guy" built that house, built it very close to the waterfall and I didn't want to be a creepy trespasser.
So basically, is it Edward's Falls or Brickyard Falls? Is it true that "Old Dam" used to be the real "Edward's Falls" and what many refer to as Edward's is actually Brickyard?
Edward's Falls does still exist and Brickyard falls is a totally different falls. Brickyard falls road crosses the creek within sight of the head of Brickyard falls. However, it is basically in the backyards of houses that are close and I have been unable to figure out if there is a legal way to visit. If you turn off of Brickyard Falls Rd on Clearwater circle, the falls is directly behind the houses at the end of that dead end road. Edwards Fall's you may be able to access by creekwalking up the limestone creek from behind the Suburban apartments. That was always my plan but I haven't gotten a chance to try it out yet. If you are by the fire dept on Pompey Center road and you look East ( upstream ) that is the old dam. If you look west ( downstream ) that is the head of Edward's falls in the backyard's of houses built there.