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Edwards Falls

Postby bremer » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:15 pm

Edwards falls has been mentioned here but there wasnt an official thread yet. Edwards is in Manlius, Onondaga Co, is around 50-60', and is in the 200 waterfalls book. The book mentions that you "might" be able to see it from the apartment complex parking lot. Even if the woods were clear-cut that would not be the case. There is a nature trail running behind the complex and when it reaches the southern edge of the property it heads down into the gully. This trail continues almost all the way to the falls and is fairly well defined. There is another trail that winds along the creek edge for a bit. There are a few large pools in the creek that are quite deep including one with a rope swing. I also saw a tree fort structure and lawn furniture. It seems to be a pretty popular local hangout. There are posted signs perhaps 40-50 yards from the falls, but this is close enough for a good view. The pool under the falls appears quite deep (perhaps more than 15'?) and when I was here last year people were swimming despite the signs. Even though this area is traveled pretty heavily its private property and I would tread lightly and pick-up trash.

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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby HaloGirl » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:54 pm

Nice falls pics. :up:
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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby hobkyl » Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:25 am

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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby bremer » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:26 am

whoops! I missed that thread somehow...
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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby Matt » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:40 pm

did you see Old Dam Falls while you were there?
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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby gcs » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:52 pm

The description on at the top is spot-on. There are also several sulphur-smelling springs adjacent to the creek that are pretty interesting. One has remnants of an old stone bridge (the arch is still visible), and is surrounded by old tires, tin roofing, bricks (from some long-gone structure), etc. A modern "camp" (described above) is on the other side of the creek with lots of "party" evidence (beer cans, etc.) . There's a well-trod path from the camp up the west side of the gorge, but I didn't follow it. I went once in early July on a hot day and went in the pool. It was at least 7' deep, though the water was turbid and I couldn't see the bottom. I went again in late July with my wife. Someone had cut the wire from which hung a 'no trespassing' sign in the interim. We sat on the west side of the creek a few feet from other signs (ugly and nailed to trees). We saw someone on the east rim of the gorge hiding in the woods and watching us. They were near the only visible house (at least from the west side of the falls) on what I assume is the old mill foundation. We tried to ignore it for a few minutes but finally waved to them. They went deeper in the woods. We were creeped out by the episode (perhaps their intention) so we left. Assuming the falls really are privately owned (a shame in my opinion), it's a beautiful spot that I hope someday the Town of Manlius can acquire.
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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby champy1013 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:44 pm

edward's and old dam falls should be in different classifications - they are quite far and different from one another
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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby Cattitude » Tue May 14, 2013 10:42 pm

I've been told about Edward's Falls and Old Dam, however I'm confused because I've heard from locals a couple of different stories. I've been told that "Old Dam" is what USED to be Edward's Falls before they dammed it up and made it into a dinky dam-thing. So basically Edward's Falls is no longer in existence (?!), and what many people refer to as "Edward's Falls" is actually Brickyard Falls, named after an old brickyard whose power source came from the waterfall. So what's the story? I hiked down the gully behind Suburban the other day and followed Limestone Creek until I could not go any further due to rough terrain and inadequate footwear (I'm going back ASAP with all the proper gear and I WILL CROSS THAT CREEK AND FEAST MY EYES ON THOSE FALLS!) I also tried approaching from Pompey Center Rd. and got a view of the very top of the falls where there is a "Private Property" sign strung across the entire width of the creek. Unfortunately whatever (eh hem, holding my tongue) "guy" built that house, built it very close to the waterfall and I didn't want to be a creepy trespasser.

So basically, is it Edward's Falls or Brickyard Falls? Is it true that "Old Dam" used to be the real "Edward's Falls" and what many refer to as Edward's is actually Brickyard?
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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby boriscleto » Sun May 26, 2013 1:29 pm

Cattitude wrote:I've been told about Edward's Falls and Old Dam, however I'm confused because I've heard from locals a couple of different stories. I've been told that "Old Dam" is what USED to be Edward's Falls before they dammed it up and made it into a dinky dam-thing. So basically Edward's Falls is no longer in existence (?!), and what many people refer to as "Edward's Falls" is actually Brickyard Falls, named after an old brickyard whose power source came from the waterfall. So what's the story? I hiked down the gully behind Suburban the other day and followed Limestone Creek until I could not go any further due to rough terrain and inadequate footwear (I'm going back ASAP with all the proper gear and I WILL CROSS THAT CREEK AND FEAST MY EYES ON THOSE FALLS!) I also tried approaching from Pompey Center Rd. and got a view of the very top of the falls where there is a "Private Property" sign strung across the entire width of the creek. Unfortunately whatever (eh hem, holding my tongue) "guy" built that house, built it very close to the waterfall and I didn't want to be a creepy trespasser.

So basically, is it Edward's Falls or Brickyard Falls? Is it true that "Old Dam" used to be the real "Edward's Falls" and what many refer to as Edward's is actually Brickyard?


The maps show the two falls to be in different places...

Edward's Falls are below the dam on Pompey Center Rd.. Brickyard Falls are below Brickyard Falls Rd. on the West Branch of Limestone Creek, about 2 miles away.

Both have houses above them.
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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby MikeDeep » Mon May 27, 2013 11:47 am

Edwards Falls is not difficult to access. I lived in Suburban Park in 2005 and would make the hike up Limestone Creek regularly.

I'll try to outline the path here, but I haven't been back since 2010 and certain aspects may have changed depending on erosion and landslides.

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You can pick up the trail from the South end of Suburban Park apartments (A). There is a paved path that runs into the woods. If you break West into the brush around where this pavement begins, you should pick up a small trail. This will proceed South until it hits a tree on a steep incline. That tree should have a rope attached to it that can be used to scale down the incline. If that rope is gone and you feel you can't scale the incline without it, you can proceed further South and zig-zag down shallower terrain to creek level.

At creek level you should encounter a very large felled tree laying parallel to the water (B). For now you'll want to stay on this East side of the creek where the ground is flat. As the creek turns East, the flat ground will begin taper off and you'll want to find a shallow or rock-littered crossing and switch sides (C).

Once you cross to the West side of the creek, you'll continue along level ground all the way to the falls. Here you'll find several small streams and the sulphur springs that were mentioned. The sulphur springs will likely be indicated by the presence of white bacterial mats in the water. Beyond that, you'll enter the 'campsite' (E) which had fallen into disrepair when I was last there in 2010. The path up the hill by the campsite simply leads into someone's backyard - Don't follow it.

If you stay on the East side of the creek, you'll encounter very narrow footing against a steep rock wall (D). This wall may have water running down it seasonally and could be slippery. This path is difficult until the creek resumes a North-South direction. The only reason to go this way would be to see the ruins gcs mentioned.

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You can barely see it here, but when I went (July 2010) that silly sign was still strung across the pool and pretty much ruined the trip. I didn't bother getting closer once I saw it.

On that note, I have looked at the county records, and yes, the falls are on the same parcel as the adjacent house on Pompey Center Road. It is definitely private property.
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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby cbobcat49 » Tue May 28, 2013 12:49 pm

Looks like I can see the rope strung across the creek in the distance in that last photo.
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Re: Edwards Falls

Postby Matt » Tue May 28, 2013 7:14 pm

Excellent info! That stone bridge looks cool. I would love to photograph that in some eerie light.
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